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wb9woz
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject: wb9woz-15 parameters
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I will be changing the parameters to wb9woz-15, and would like some input.
The proposed changes will be
Alias IL2-2,IL2-1
UIdigicall wide1-1,wide4-4,wide5-5,wide6-6
UItrace IL,wide
relay will be dropped in favor of wide1-1
bruce
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KK9H
Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 40 Location: Northfield, IL
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject:
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Bruce,
I know that your digi is different from the KPC-3+ type of digi that I am familiar with, but why wouldn't you enter your changes this way:
Alias RELAY (optional, give people time to change, still supports travellers passing through town for a while)
UIdigicall WIDE4-4,WIDE5-5,WIDE6-6,WIDE7-7
UIflood IL
UItrace WIDE
Making Alias IL2-2,IL2-1 seems to duplicate what you have entered in UItrace.
Don |
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wb9woz
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject: re:wb9woz-15 parameters
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Maybe I misunderstood what IL-ARES was requesting in the link http://www.qsl.net/ares-il/APRS.html
I'll leave RELAY in for awile, if thats what users want. The only downside is the digi has about a 25 mile radius for mobile coverage, overlapping Winettka and University Park.
Alias of IL and CHICAGO have been supported since the site changed to uidigi firmware last year. |
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KK9H
Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 40 Location: Northfield, IL
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:42 pm Post subject:
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OK. I had not yet seen the http://www.qsl.net/ares-il/APRS.html
Their recommendation differs slightly from WB4APR's in that he tells people to put their state identifier in the UIflood parameter, WIDE in UItrace and WIDE4-4......WIDE7-7 in UIdigi. The ARES directions tell you to put two specific paths, IL2-2 and IL2-1, in UIdigi. Both will work, but they will work differently. This link is what WB4APR recommends for UIDIGI, UIFLOOD and UITRACE.
http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs/kpc3+WIDEn.txt
As far as keeping RELAY or dropping it, you have an excellent point. It will be left up on W9AZ-15 and NS9RC for a while then dropped. With those two digi's you really don't have to have RELAY on your digi if you prefer not to.
Lastly, WB4APR recommends that mobiles use either WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 or WIDE2-2 or (in our case) IL2-2. You want to be sure your digi is compatible with each of these paths.
Don |
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wb9woz
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:55 pm Post subject: wb9woz-15 parameters
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I updated the parameters today. Let me know if it seems to be working.
Thanks
bruce |
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AB9FX
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 23 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
What is now, all paths should be traced SSn-n as well as WIDEn-n.
In UIDIGIrom should be:
UIFloodCall = IL
UIFLOODOptions = 1
UITraceCall = WIDE
So, every packet will be marked with WB9WOZ-15.
In UIDIGIrom duplicate checking works correct. For this reason, if packet is repeated because of RELAY and than comes again from W9AZ-15 or from another digi is ignored. We do not have to be worry about RELAY and unneeded repeating. Problem is for KPC3+ 8.2 8.3, there is no dupe checking for calls in UIDIGI command.
Of course dupe checking in UIDIGIrom works for all aliases in UIDigiFlood, UIDigiTrace and UIDigiCall, and should be set as:
DuplicateSuppression = 30
There is some bug in UIDIGIrom and we need WIDE1-1 in UIDigiCall. This way WIDE1-1 will be turned out to WB9WOZ-15* Otherwise would be WIDE1 (without *) what blocks next step in the path. The bug in UIDIGIrom should be fixed that WIDE1-1 is turned out to WIDE1* what allows packet to do next steps of own path. If we had this fixed we would let UITraceCall = WIDE manage WIDE1-1 (this way dupes are omited in KPC3+).
What I think, for UIDigiCall should be as (RELAY just temporary for compatibility):
UIDigiCall = RELAY, WIDE1-1, WIDE7-7, WIDE6-6, WIDE5-5, WIDE4-4
UIDIGICallSubstitution = 1
In such configuration there is limit for WIDEn-n if n>3 and SSn-n works as ILn-n, so in the commentary should be W3,ILn.
73!
Andy AB9FX |
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wb9woz
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject: wb9woz-15 parameters
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Here are the parameters as they stand right now.
UIDIGIcall = wide1-1,wide4-4,wide5-5,wide6-6
UIDIGICallSubstitution = 1
UIFloodCall = IL
UIFLOODOptions = 1
UITraceCall = WIDE
DuplicateSuppression = 25
The last parameter has been discussed at length on the uidigi usergroup list. 25 seems to be ok for heavier traffic areas.
These may still need some tweaking, time will tell.
Bruce |
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